The one about the sound of our voices, distorted self-image, collecting things, satirical business ideas, liberal towns in conservative states, Kevin’s European vacation, movies, US health insurance sucks, and leaving your comfort zone through travel

Mark and Kevin don’t like the sound of their recorded voices, though they do like the sound of each other’s voices. Does everyone dislike the sound of their own voice? They realize they’re not funny, insightful, or even likely very intelligent, but Mark brings up those who have a distorted self-image. 

Kevin went to Europe and didn’t want to come home. Mark and Kevin know lots of conservatives who love Europe, but love to hate it when it’s politically expedient. Donald Trump wanted Europeans to immigrate to the US instead of immigrants from “shit hole countries”, but the Europeans he wanted didn’t have any reason to move here. On the other hand, Kevin would move to many European countries right now, if he could. Sadly, while many conservatives would be happy to help him pack, most of Europe doesn’t want Kevin.

A friend in Spain has listened to the podcast, and said it was about Elon Musk, so Mark and Kevin refuse to talk about Elon in this particular episode, no matter how much they dislike him and would like to talk about the latest nonsense in the Elon Musk orbit.

Mark once saw the movie Big Fish in Italy, but didn’t realize it was good until he saw in English. Kevin had many hours to watch movies on the plane, and watched Everything Everywhere All At Once, and the Big Short.

Traveling to other countries takes you out of your comfort zones. The accommodations are smaller, the meals are different, and sometimes people don’t want to speak English even if they can (not that we blame them).